Wednesday Words
To Go Where Your VisionPoints, a few inspiration points for you and your business.
Your audience gives you everything you need. They tell you. There is no director who can direct you like an audience.
—Fanny Brice
Wondering how to increase your sales in a hurry? Need some direction?
This is top-secret homework I give to only my most ambitious, determined, rock-the-world clients, so we can work together to create their Maximum Customer Experience. I’m trusting you with this homework because you know, I’m obsessed with your success—and I know you’ll only pass this link along to those who really need to hear this secret, so they can grow their business starting today.
(Sounds like fluff, huh? Just try it. This is the real deal.)
It’s a surprisingly easy bit of homework that I do myself from time to time, as well. Yes, I regularly take my own advice—why not?
No. I’m not listening to your why-I-can’t. This will take less than 30 minutes, will improve your business tremendously, and may massively change your thinking. It’s no risk and high reward. You absolutely can—and you’ll thank me later.**
This afternoon, around 2 or 3 pm when business is usually quiet, grab a small notebook and a pencil and go to a business that fits your Ideal Customer description perfectly. Choose one that already uses a similar product or service if you can—this is important because you don’t want them to see themselves too closely in the questions you ask.
Introduce yourself. Explain that you’d like some advice and perspective, and that you only want ten minutes of their time. Most folks are flattered to be asked for their insights.* Tell them you have [X] years’ experience in what you do, and that you want to expand your business. (Try to stay light and funny, making a joke about getting advice after you’re already in the thick of things. Get them on your side.) Tell them very briefly what you’re planning with your business. One sentence.
Ask him or her only four questions:
(a) what does he think would get a business that’s been sitting on the fence to change their mind about using your product or service;
(b) what does he think your biggest barrier will be;
(c) if he were searching for such a product or service online, what words and phrases might he use (or has he used) to look; and
(d) what words and phrases would definitely hook him.
TAKE NOTES. Especially make note during any of the questions of particular words or phrases (the best ones will almost always come before you ask the “what words or phrases” questions, because that usually stymies people, but you never know).
It’s that easy.
Thank them for their time and walk away. No card or contact info unless they specifically ask. This is NOT a sales pitch, this is info-gathering.
Next, go through your notes with a fine-toothed comb. Look for key words, phrases, insights, and the general attitude of the person you interviewed. There’s a lot to be learned here, and you can put it to use right now.
You can use these notes:
to help you rewrite a sales page on your website;
to write a new brochure;
to make sure you’re selling what the Ideal Customer wishes he could buy, packaged so he recognizes it;
to target blog articles to the needs and thought processes of the Ideal Customer;
to refine your sales presentations.
Tomorrow, send him a thank-you note. On the reverse of the note, put your contact info. Don’t be in-your-face. This is not a sales pitch.
(Bonus: Do it three times today.)
Why? Because Ms. Brice was right: Your audience—the Ideal Customer—will give you everything you need if you know how to take direction.
Grow and be well,
Kelly Erickson
*Why this afternoon? Better to do it earlier in the week, when workloads are easier for most folks. Wednesdays are perfect. Also better to do this homework with little notice. Don’t give yourself time to think—just get out there today.
Should you make an appointment? No. Then (in their minds) it’s a sales call. Which it’s not, remember.
If you phone them, they can say no, or they can work up defenses before you walk in and make the talk pretty useless. I’d rather see you walk in and ask if you can pick their brains for ten minutes (use flattery! — “because you’re well-established here, because I know you know the business community like the back of your hand, because I’ve known you and spent my money here forever” —a bit of guilt too), at a time of day when they’re likely to be just bored enough to say yes to giving advice to a bold pup like you.
If you run into someone who’s not flattered and willing to spare just a few minutes, move on. It’s not a sales call. So there’s no need to feel rejected, okay?
Feel free to leave a comment below about all the reasons you can’t do this. But remember, I’m not listening!
**If you do decide to interview an Ideal Customer or three today, and you don’t want to leave your “Wow, this really was a revolution!” comment here, feel free to email me: kellye (at) visionpoints (dot) net. I would love to hear your success story!












21 October 2009, 7:58 am
As one of those top-secret, most ambitious, determined, rock-the-world clients who received this homework for a new business venture (I paid money for homework?! Someone shoot me…), I have to say that I’ve been sitting on the fence for over two weeks now.
In short, I haven’t done it. Why?
“… busy today. Full schedule.”
“… got an appointment I can’t miss.”
“… kids are home. No babysitter.”
“… not a good day to ask. People are busy.”
“… it’s Friday.”
“… it’s Sunday.”
“… have a guitar lesson today.”
And I’m still putting it off. Truthfully?
I don’t want to face that moment of walking into a store, asking to speak to the owner and when I tell them why I’m there, see their face change into skeptical, “Get out of my store; I’m not buying.”
It’ll happen. I know my town.
I also know I’m perfectly capable to sweeping past that and actually doing the homework with flying colors. That isn’t a question.
But man I hate that look – and being the one receiving it.
James Chartrand – Men with Pens´s latest blog… How Does Writing Make you Feel?
21 October 2009, 10:02 am
James,
Yes, you are very delinquent. I wasn’t going to mention that, hehe.
Worse, though: No, you won’t get that look all over town!
Walk in to do a cold sales call, sure you will. Wouldn’t you give that look? But walk in to ask advice from seasoned experts in the town, nope.
(In the very very unlikely event that you do get that look all over town it’ll tell you quite a bit about whether your concept’s going to fly, eh?)
You’d be shocked. I’ve interviewed internationally known architects and designers around the country, and the heads of the littlest dance studios, restaurants, shoe stores, bars… you name it, with exactly this technique.
What you’ll learn will save you at least a year of “will this sink or swim, and why or why not?” guessing. You’re getting right inside people’s heads without wanting anything material from them. It works.
Sometimes… shh… they even become clients or refer clients later. Even though—and precisely because—it’s not a sales call.
C’mon back here and rave tomorrow about it, so other folks who are sitting on the fence will rush out to do it. Or, y’know, email me like you were s’posed to.
Regards,
Kelly
21 October 2009, 12:26 pm
ok, i put it on my list to do. now, can i actually do it? I love James’ list of excuses… looks a lot like mine.
Todd Smith´s latest blog… Brighten Your World with Photography
21 October 2009, 12:45 pm
Todd,
Go for it. Maybe you’ll beat James back here with cool insights to report. Heck, you can even tell the business owners when you stride in to come check out this article if it will help break the ice. Blame it on me, lol.
My favorite saying is The Worst They Can Say Is No.
(And even that’s teaching something.)
Though a dear friend of mine once pointed out that the worst they can say is actually, “No! Get out of here, you loonie! I’m calling security!”
… but that’s a point for another Wednesday.
Until later,
Kelly
21 October 2009, 11:06 pm
I did it!!
Wow, was that ever a good exercise! Thanks Kelly.
I went to Papyrus in a local mall near me. The manager spent a good 20 minutes with me and was very helpful. Also, while I was waiting for her, I spend a half hour browsing through all the cards they sell there, and noticing tons of things about their products, including pricing and packaging.
Here are her answers to your four questions:
1. What would get a business sitting on the fence to change their mind about carrying my cards and calendar? She said, it’s a very good incentive to offer a guarantee, in case some cards don’t sell. That minimizes the risk for them. It could be a buy back program or an exchange program. Then she said, if you offer terms, it can push a buyer over the edge. Net 30 is good or even Net 60. For calendars, offer that the bill is not due until January (but she says you won’t always get paid). Offer a 10% discount if they pay early. She also suggested giving as much as 60% to the store with terms. Maybe with a 44 piece minimum order.
2. What would my biggest barrier be? She said getting the buyer’s attention can be tough. She recommended a place call LA Mart – a showroom where I could probably find a company to represent my cards for me in Southern California. She also suggested the San Francisco gift show (she said the LA show sucks). It’s easier to get a buyer’s attention when they have come to a show to find what you sell. She also suggested niche shops, like flower shops, gourmet groceries (which I have found successful). And she suggested that I consider submitting my art to larger calendar company like Graphic de France. She also suggested coffee shops, even seasonal calendar stores (I didn’t know there was such a thing).
3. If you were searching online what words or phrases would you use? She doesn’t search online for her cards since they come down the pipeline from Papyrus. She mentioned things like “nature photography,” or specific subjects like flowers, etc. It was clear that she didn’t have much experience there.
4. What words or phrases would definitely hook you on my products? Honesty was the first word out of her mouth. Also, it would be useful to know on average how often stores re-order and the average order amount, as well as the number of stores carrying the products. Those numbers, if good, would be very helpful to close a sale.
The lady was very helpful, gave me her card, and said I could call her anytime if I had more questions. It turns out she worked in an independent store until four years ago and was the card buyer. So she had lots of experience and knowledge to share and seemed happy to be asked about it.
I also tried the Hallmark store but the manager said she can’t engage in that kind of discussion without corporate approval. She did suggest that I call Hallmark directly and ask for their marketing department, and that I might be able to ask my questions to them.
Well, there you have it. The longest comment I’ve ever left on a blog. Very helpful, Kelly. It was fun getting out, and it wasn’t even really that scary.
Thank you!
Todd Smith´s latest blog… Brighten Your World with Photography
21 October 2009, 11:32 pm
Todd,
This is a sure sign of how much YOU ROCK. You got a lot of little gems in that one outing!
#3 is an excellent point—for some of our customers, the web has not yet become a major factor. (Every day, the web is encroaching more and more, though. There’s not one business I wouldn’t have thinking about it these days, no matter how entrenched in old ways they think their customers are.)
Asking the question revealed that, but like I mentioned, often the keywords are hiding in answers to questions 1 and 2 anyway—and on the web or in a print ad or a brochure, the same trigger words and phrases are going to move your prospect to action.
I love it. Sometimes I wish the whole world would wander by a post, just so I could hear more great comments like this one. Absolutely awesome.
Glad it wasn’t too rough. What a wonderful contact you made! I hope your “homework” will lead to some really productive new ways of thinking for you, Todd.
Until later,
Kelly
22 October 2009, 8:30 am
Waaah, he beat me!
And so will other people. Kid’s got a sudden fever and other nasties, so… yeah. Oh well.
James Chartrand – Men with Pens´s latest blog… Drive-By Shooting Special: Cheryl’s Casual Contemplations
22 October 2009, 3:14 pm
James,
Take care of your little person. You can shave years off your efforts to rule a new section of the world on another day. Today, be there for that cutie.
But you know, Todd totally ROCKS… something to think about when the fever breaks and Mum says she’s available to babysit…
Until later,
Kelly
22 October 2009, 9:02 pm
Thanks, Kelly. Just following your brilliant lead.
Regarding #3, you’re right. If I decided to offer net 30 or a buy back program (mentioned in #1), I have a feeling those key words might be something buyers would be searching for.
“Productive new ways of thinking” are exactly what has come out of this. I actually kind of want to do it again.
Todd Smith´s latest blog… Brighten Your World with Photography
22 October 2009, 9:04 pm
You’ve created a monster, Kelly.
James Chartrand – Men with Pens´s latest blog… Drive-By Shooting Special: Cheryl’s Casual Contemplations
22 October 2009, 9:21 pm
Todd,
Do! I do it whenever I really need to shake things up. Literally, because it make me a bit queasy beforehand, and figuratively, because it leaves me with a delightful high and a ton of new info to digest.
Here’s my theory (shh!!! another top secret!!)—if I’m not 100% as busy as I could possibly be, then what harm in using a 1/2 hour of my day this way, when plenty of good might come out of it?
James,
Every monster created makes me ultra-happy, and grows another business. Tell me, what better life’s work is there than this?
If I could create 26,004 monsters daily, my life would be complete.
Later,
Kelly
22 October 2009, 9:29 pm
Would you be happy even if those monsters, by chance, resembled huge, inflatable gorillas?
Todd Smith´s latest blog… Brighten Your World with Photography
22 October 2009, 10:16 pm
LOL, LOL.
Maybe a different variety of monster… the rare small-business lion, king of the entrepreneurial forest… ready to rule his (or her) corner of the world.
Some days, we’ve got all the inflatable gorillas we can handle ’round here.
3 November 2009, 10:00 am
So, how does this work in the B2C world rather than B2B? Do I find my ideal client (individual) and ask them the same questions?
Do I do this as a survey through my newsletter?
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