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		<title>By: Kelly Erickson</title>
		<link>http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/2009/12/02/talent-vs-fate-good-or-lucky/comment-page-1/#comment-71814</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham,

I think Warren Buffett calls it something like winning the womb lottery. Being born in the right place, particularly, and also the right time.

No matter how much luck, I&#039;d like to think neither Warren nor Bill suffers from a lot of &quot;am I good enough&quot; anxiety. But we mere mortals seems to suffer from it quite a lot.

On surviving the case: my Irish genes take me a little ways in that regard. And practice does make perfect. But mostly I&#039;d be relying on that 80/20 rule...  Make sure Kelly only has to survive 20% of it, lol, and get Friar a designated driver. After all, he&#039;s got to survive my waxing lyrical about Barnett Newman.   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham,</p>
<p>I think Warren Buffett calls it something like winning the womb lottery. Being born in the right place, particularly, and also the right time.</p>
<p>No matter how much luck, I&#8217;d like to think neither Warren nor Bill suffers from a lot of &#8220;am I good enough&#8221; anxiety. But we mere mortals seems to suffer from it quite a lot.</p>
<p>On surviving the case: my Irish genes take me a little ways in that regard. And practice does make perfect. But mostly I&#8217;d be relying on that 80/20 rule&#8230;  Make sure Kelly only has to survive 20% of it, lol, and get Friar a designated driver. After all, he&#8217;s got to survive my waxing lyrical about Barnett Newman.   <img src='http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Graham Strong</title>
		<link>http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/2009/12/02/talent-vs-fate-good-or-lucky/comment-page-1/#comment-71808</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PPS - just remembered that Bill Gates was on CNN with Warren Buffet, and he said that luck played a big role in who he is today. If he hadn&#039;t been who he was with the same interests etc. at EXACTLY the moment the microprocessor came into existence, he wouldn&#039;t be, well Bill Gates.

If that doesn&#039;t say it all...

~G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPS &#8211; just remembered that Bill Gates was on CNN with Warren Buffet, and he said that luck played a big role in who he is today. If he hadn&#8217;t been who he was with the same interests etc. at EXACTLY the moment the microprocessor came into existence, he wouldn&#8217;t be, well Bill Gates.</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t say it all&#8230;</p>
<p>~G</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett,

I had to take a trip to Wikipedia. I knew Trump&#039;s father was in real estate, but I didn&#039;t know Gates&#039; father was an attorney. Certainly neither of them were poverty-stricken, but it has got to be a bit different for their kids, lol.

(I don&#039;t think private school necessarily means &quot;rich&quot; here in the States, though of course some are for the well-off.... I also went to private school up to a point. I love &#039;em dearly and they&#039;re rich in spirit, but my parents weren&#039;t well-to-do.  :)  It was so we&#039;d know all about [my family&#039;s favorite higher power] — and to keep us out of the local schools.)

Wondering about their kids came up because of (Trump&#039;s daughter) Ivanka&#039;s new book... a person of her age has usually got to be breakthrough-genius in their writing, and even then it&#039;s not likely to be enough, as my Kid was saying, but I have a feeling that for her it was just a matter of waiting until she had something to say. There were probably a few publishers tripping over themselves to find someone to help her say it.

Ah, luck. Hope she&#039;s got the goods to sustain it!

Later,

Kelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett,</p>
<p>I had to take a trip to Wikipedia. I knew Trump&#8217;s father was in real estate, but I didn&#8217;t know Gates&#8217; father was an attorney. Certainly neither of them were poverty-stricken, but it has got to be a bit different for their kids, lol.</p>
<p>(I don&#8217;t think private school necessarily means &#8220;rich&#8221; here in the States, though of course some are for the well-off&#8230;. I also went to private school up to a point. I love &#8216;em dearly and they&#8217;re rich in spirit, but my parents weren&#8217;t well-to-do.  <img src='http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It was so we&#8217;d know all about [my family's favorite higher power] — and to keep us out of the local schools.)</p>
<p>Wondering about their kids came up because of (Trump&#8217;s daughter) Ivanka&#8217;s new book&#8230; a person of her age has usually got to be breakthrough-genius in their writing, and even then it&#8217;s not likely to be enough, as my Kid was saying, but I have a feeling that for her it was just a matter of waiting until she had something to say. There were probably a few publishers tripping over themselves to find someone to help her say it.</p>
<p>Ah, luck. Hope she&#8217;s got the goods to sustain it!</p>
<p>Later,</p>
<p>Kelly</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Strong</title>
		<link>http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/2009/12/02/talent-vs-fate-good-or-lucky/comment-page-1/#comment-71806</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read &quot;The Outliers&quot; by Malcolm Gladwell. I haven&#039;t yet, but it will be in my next book order. Talks all about &quot;the right person at the right time&quot; (so I hear) featuring everyman Bill Gates -- at least partially.

~Graham

PS - If you&#039;re planning to survive a case of Guinness, you&#039;ll have to be both good AND lucky...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read &#8220;The Outliers&#8221; by Malcolm Gladwell. I haven&#8217;t yet, but it will be in my next book order. Talks all about &#8220;the right person at the right time&#8221; (so I hear) featuring everyman Bill Gates &#8212; at least partially.</p>
<p>~Graham</p>
<p>PS &#8211; If you&#8217;re planning to survive a case of Guinness, you&#8217;ll have to be both good AND lucky&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Legree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Legree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what&#039;s interesting about Gates and Trump, is that *their* folks were well connected (and at least in Trump&#039;s case) pretty well off.  I do believe that both of them went to private or exclusive schools.

But obviously hard work wasn&#039;t lost on them, and they weren&#039;t afraid to take risks.

I wonder if they&#039;ve passed this on to their children.
.-= Brett Legree´s latest blog... &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/6weeksca/~3/MThPuOYG48E/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;6 weeks 2 days.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what&#8217;s interesting about Gates and Trump, is that *their* folks were well connected (and at least in Trump&#8217;s case) pretty well off.  I do believe that both of them went to private or exclusive schools.</p>
<p>But obviously hard work wasn&#8217;t lost on them, and they weren&#8217;t afraid to take risks.</p>
<p>I wonder if they&#8217;ve passed this on to their children.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Brett Legree´s latest blog&#8230; <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/6weeksca/~3/MThPuOYG48E/" rel="nofollow">6 weeks 2 days.</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meet me on the art museum steps. After we&#039;ve split the case of Guinness (80/20, I hope, for my sake), we&#039;ll go sit in front of Philly&#039;s Barnett Newman, where I&#039;ve spent many a happy moment, and I&#039;ll &#039;splain it all to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meet me on the art museum steps. After we&#8217;ve split the case of Guinness (80/20, I hope, for my sake), we&#8217;ll go sit in front of Philly&#8217;s Barnett Newman, where I&#8217;ve spent many a happy moment, and I&#8217;ll &#8216;splain it all to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Friar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree....it stops my heart, and makes me feel a pit in the bottom of my stomach, when I think we taxpayers shelled out almost $2 million...

...for THREE STINKING STRIPES.

Okay..getting in the car now, with a case of Guiness.  (See you in 14 hours).  ;-)
.-= Friar´s latest blog... &lt;a href=&quot;http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/hit-and-miss-painting/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hit-and-Miss Painting&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;.it stops my heart, and makes me feel a pit in the bottom of my stomach, when I think we taxpayers shelled out almost $2 million&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;for THREE STINKING STRIPES.</p>
<p>Okay..getting in the car now, with a case of Guiness.  (See you in 14 hours).  <img src='http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Friar´s latest blog&#8230; <a href="http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/hit-and-miss-painting/" rel="nofollow">Hit-and-Miss Painting</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friar,

He&#039;s quite dead. He can handle the insult.  :)

Meet me for the beer (make it a Guinness, and bring an Irish flag, k?) and I&#039;ll wax on about Barnett Newman for an hour. Seriously. Don&#039;t get me started on his heart-stopping amazingness. Bloody brilliant.

Later,

Kelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friar,</p>
<p>He&#8217;s quite dead. He can handle the insult.  <img src='http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Meet me for the beer (make it a Guinness, and bring an Irish flag, k?) and I&#8217;ll wax on about Barnett Newman for an hour. Seriously. Don&#8217;t get me started on his heart-stopping amazingness. Bloody brilliant.</p>
<p>Later,</p>
<p>Kelly</p>
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		<title>By: Friar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kelly

I&#039;m not insulting the artist.   Hey, if he can convince people to pay millions for a design that any custom auto-body shop can come up with, hey great.   More power to you...you&#039;ve done your homework in marketing and selling yourself, you&#039;ve earned it.

It&#039;s the people who are willing to pay $1.8 million for it, that I have issues with.  Especially when it comes out of my taxpayer&#039;s money. 

PS. How does one contemplate the &quot;vastness&quot; of three stripes?  

Tell you what...I&#039;ll hand a very large flag of France or Italy, and you can get the same effect. ;-)
.-= Friar´s latest blog... &lt;a href=&quot;http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/hit-and-miss-painting/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hit-and-Miss Painting&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kelly</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not insulting the artist.   Hey, if he can convince people to pay millions for a design that any custom auto-body shop can come up with, hey great.   More power to you&#8230;you&#8217;ve done your homework in marketing and selling yourself, you&#8217;ve earned it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the people who are willing to pay $1.8 million for it, that I have issues with.  Especially when it comes out of my taxpayer&#8217;s money. </p>
<p>PS. How does one contemplate the &#8220;vastness&#8221; of three stripes?  </p>
<p>Tell you what&#8230;I&#8217;ll hand a very large flag of France or Italy, and you can get the same effect. <img src='http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Friar´s latest blog&#8230; <a href="http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/hit-and-miss-painting/" rel="nofollow">Hit-and-Miss Painting</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friar,

We agree. As I said there are plenty of folks who don&#039;t make it who have what appear to be the raw talents they needed. I do think luck plays a part in success. 

Knowing there are more folks who are &quot;good&quot; than just those who make it, doesn&#039;t mean those who do make it are just lucky, though. Lucky, tough, and good, most of the time. And sure. Maybe even a bit shrewd. No harm in that!

I&#039;m thinking the Tin Man didn&#039;t do a heck of a lot for Jack Haley&#039;s career, eh?—so maybe Ebsen&#039;s the one who got the luck after all.  :)

Later,

Kelly

P.S. LOL. You have accidentally insulted my favorite artist in the entire universe, Barnett Newman, whose every painting is (to me) touched by the hand of [insert your favorite higher power here]. I could sit in front of Voice of Fire or any other work of his for days and contemplate the vastness of it, and if that truck of Brett&#039;s misses and wanders south of Philadelphia, the only self-indulgent thing I&#039;d wish to do with the money would be to own just one of his paintings.

Someday you and I will have to sit down with a beer and duke this out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friar,</p>
<p>We agree. As I said there are plenty of folks who don&#8217;t make it who have what appear to be the raw talents they needed. I do think luck plays a part in success. </p>
<p>Knowing there are more folks who are &#8220;good&#8221; than just those who make it, doesn&#8217;t mean those who do make it are just lucky, though. Lucky, tough, and good, most of the time. And sure. Maybe even a bit shrewd. No harm in that!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking the Tin Man didn&#8217;t do a heck of a lot for Jack Haley&#8217;s career, eh?—so maybe Ebsen&#8217;s the one who got the luck after all.  <img src='http://maximumcustomerexperience.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Later,</p>
<p>Kelly</p>
<p>P.S. LOL. You have accidentally insulted my favorite artist in the entire universe, Barnett Newman, whose every painting is (to me) touched by the hand of [insert your favorite higher power here]. I could sit in front of Voice of Fire or any other work of his for days and contemplate the vastness of it, and if that truck of Brett&#8217;s misses and wanders south of Philadelphia, the only self-indulgent thing I&#8217;d wish to do with the money would be to own just one of his paintings.</p>
<p>Someday you and I will have to sit down with a beer and duke this out!</p>
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